Google Chrome 對 Symantec 全系列憑證的不信任計畫

Google Chrome 前陣子整理了一份對 Symantec 憑證的不信任計畫:「Chrome’s Plan to Distrust Symantec Certificates」。

這包括了一卡車的品牌,像是 ThawteVeriSignGeoTrustRapidSSL,不過 Equifax 跟 Symantec 的關係我沒查到...:

Symantec’s PKI business, which operates a series of Certificate Authorities under various brand names, including Thawte, VeriSign, Equifax, GeoTrust, and RapidSSL, had issued numerous certificates that did not comply with the industry-developed CA/Browser Forum Baseline Requirements.

反正整個計畫會在 Google Chrome 70 推出時告一段落 (變成完全不信任),會是 2018/09/13 (預定時間) 與 2018/10/23 (預定時間) 在 beta channel 與 stable channel 上推出。

中間比較重要的時間點是 2018/03/15 (預定時間) 與 2018/04/17 (預定時間),Google Chrome 66 在 beta channel 與 stable channel 上推出,這個版本不會信任 2016/06/01 前發出的憑證:

Chrome 66 released to beta, which will remove trust in Symantec-issued certificates with a not-before date prior to June 1, 2016. As of this date Site Operators must be using either a Symantec-issued TLS server certificate issued on or after June 1, 2016 or a currently valid certificate issued from any other trusted CA as of Chrome 66.
Site Operators that obtained a certificate from Symantec’s old infrastructure after June 1, 2016 are unaffected by Chrome 66 but will need to obtain a new certificate by the Chrome 70 dates described below.


未來 CA 將會強制要求檢查 DNS CAA record

CA/Browser 通過提案,要求以後 CA 單位都要檢查 DNS CAA record 才能發放憑證 (RFC 6844 的「DNS Certification Authority Authorization (CAA) Resource Record」):「Ballot 187 - Make CAA Checking Mandatory」。

Certificate Authority Authorization (CAA) is a DNS Resource Record defined in RFC 6844 – , published in January 2013. It allows a DNS domain name holder to specify one or more Certification Authorities (CAs) authorized to issue certificates for that domain and, by implication, that no other CAs are authorized.

透過 DNS CAA 資料,你可以限制只有誰可以發你的憑證,直接用白名單做控管。

未來 SSL Certificate 的最大有效時間將降到 825 天

CA/Browser Forum 通過了這項提案,將 SSL Certificate 的最大有效時間降到 825 天 (大約 27 個月):「Ballot 193 - 825-day Certificate Lifetimes」。

所以將會從本來的 39 個月降到 27 個月左右,所以現在買得到最長的 certificate 會有 3 年,以後會有 2 年:

Recent Ballot 185 demonstrated a consensus among Forum members to reduce the maximum lifetime for DV and OV certificates from 39 months to 825 days (roughly 27 months). This ballot reflects that consensus, and also reduces the maximum period for reuse of vetting data for DV and OV certificates from 39 months to 27 months.

CA/Browser Forum 在三月底的會議記錄

CA/Browser Forum 三月底的會議記錄裡看到了關於 wildcard ssl certificate 的一些討論,還蠻有趣的:「2016-03-31 Minutes」。

主要是第五條的記錄,在討論更廣泛的 wildcard 用法。首先是 Microsoftww* 這種 domain 的認定:

Rick said there was a Microsoft tech note that allows ww* Jody confirmed the platform supports it.


Rick suggested the BRs be updated to include that. Ryan said that is not a good thing as there are multiple specs that treat this differently and historical context which would make it hard for Google to support such a ballot. Kirk asked why Peter put this in the ballot. He responded that this was raised in the past where people found a discrepancy in relation to other docs. However, given there was not consensus, he would remove from the proposed ballot. Ryan said there is a need for clarification because CAs seem to be interpreting this differently. Peter said he would create a new definition called “wildcard domain name” with an exact definition to avoid confusion and add clarity. Rick said that ideally Microsoft should remove that functionality and update the tech notes. Jody said he would need to consult with his expert on this. Peter said the goal of this ballot was to make it a “consensus” ballot and would remove anything controversial.

看起來還沒有完全定下來,之後的會議記錄可以再看看進展。這對安全性也頗有幫助,舉例來說,我就可以針對不同的服務發不同的 wildcard ssl certificate,像是 test-* 這樣,而不用另外再建立機制避免 private key 的外流。

Hostname 與 Username 的保留名稱問題

在「Hostnames and usernames to reserve」這邊提到公開服務時的保留名稱問題。

首先是提到 hostname 的部分,被各協定使用到的都散落在各標準裡,另外就是利用前幾天提到的「Mozilla 維護的 Public Suffix List」加減擋 cookie...

比較感興趣的是 email 的部分的標準,這邊主要在討論 SSL certificate 的註冊。在「Baseline_Requirements_V1_3_1」的 Authorization by Domain Name Registrant 的第四項提到:

Communicating with the Domain’s administrator using an email address created by pre‐pending ‘admin’, ‘administrator’, ‘webmaster’, ‘hostmaster’, or ‘postmaster’ in the local part, followed by the at‐sign (“@”), followed by the Domain Name, which may be formed by pruning zero or more components from the requested FQDN;

也就是指出只能用上面提到的這幾個 mail address 來認證。不過為了安全起見,RFC 2412 定義的也應該擋下來。這兩組標準列出來的 username 都算是合理,沒什麼問題。

最後則是討論 path part,這點倒是有不少地雷可以看看,尤其是最新的 ACME 產生的問題 XDDD


在「Kudos - A Peer-to-Peer Discussion System Based on Social Voting」這邊看到分散式的論壇系統,帶有投票分數機制以及相關議題機制:

Decentralized Reddit using a DHT to store content and a blockchain to rank such content. Whitepaper with more details here:

論文裡面可以看出來設計的觀念受到 Bitcoin 的啟發,演算法也是... 換句話說,Bitcoin 帶來的影響遠遠超過金融市場,Bitcoin 所使用的理論也給其他領域很多想法。

如果這樣的系統可行的話 (還沒仔細研究 @_@),真正分散式的論壇系統就會出現了...

CNNIC 申請成為 CA/Browser Forum 成員

面對面的會議記錄,在第一天的會議記錄「2015-06-24 Face-to-Face Meeting 35 Minutes」的一開頭就看到 CNNIC 申請成為 CA/Browser Forum 的成員。


1. They don’t appear to be licensed in China (BRs requires that a CA be licensed in the country they do business if a licensing scheme is in place) and

第二個則是同時具有 CA 以及 ccTLD 註冊者的身份:

2. they appear to be a registrar for a TLD as well as a CA.

再來是第二天開頭就看到在討論 EV Wildcard 的問題 (目前是不被允許的),以及 Domain Validation 的問題。結尾則可以看到中華電信將會主辦 2017 的部份?不是很確定...

Host 2017

Chunghwa Telecom February or October (Taiwan)

CA/Browser Forum 討論網域認證與 CNNIC 的事情

兩個禮拜前 CA/Browser Forum 的會議記錄,討論了網域認證以及 CNNIC 的事情:「Minutes of CA-Browser Forum Meeting – 2 April 2015」。

由於 US-CERT 的關切,看起來「認證」這件事情 CA/Browser Forum 暫時不會有改善了:

The consensus was that US-CERT was incorrect in saying the email method of domain confirmation presents a vulnerability, that no changes were required, and that the Forum did not need to make any formal response to the US-CERT advisory.

另外是 CNNIC 的事情,也表達「甘我屁事」:

CNNIC sub-CA issue: The members discussed the recent CNNIC sub-CA issue, and noted that Google had recently published its response. Gerv stated that Mozilla was about to publish its response, which would be similar to the Google response. There was consensus that the Forum did not need to take any action.


關於 .onion SSL Certificate 的表決 (Tor Network)

關於 .onion 的 SSL Certificate,在 CAB Forum 這邊提出來表決了:「Ballot 144 – Validation rules for .onion names」。

有些時間限制與一般的 SSL Certificate 不太一樣:

CAs MUST NOT issue a Certificate that includes a Domain Name where .onion is in the right-most label of the Domain Name with a validity period longer than 15 months. Despite Section 9.2.1 of the Baseline Requirements deprecating the use of Internal Names, a CA MAY issue a Certificate containing an .onion name with an expiration date later than 1 November 2015 after (and only if) .onion is officially recognized by the IESG as a reserved TLD.


On or before May 1, 2015, each CA MUST revoke all Certificates issued with the Subject Alternative Name extension or Common Name field that includes a Domain Name where .onion is in the right-most label of the Domain Name unless the Certificate was issued in compliance with this Appendix F.